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I would also add that the onl...Thank you, Rivki. <br /><br />I would also add that the only thing the women seem to be getting is companionship, setting the bar really low for female expectations but setting it really high (near-perfection) for what's expected from women.Amanda Marcottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05098500818240791320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105473224494070432005-01-11T13:53:00.000-06:002005-01-11T13:53:00.000-06:00Ilkkik, you said: "So it is actually quite healthy...Ilkkik, you said: "So it is actually quite healthy and liberating to see hot women on TV who don't use their beauty advantage to trade up for a higher-status man, but instead settle for lower-status men who aren't "CEO's" or "millionaires"." <br /><br />I have to say I disagree. It would be healthy and liberating if these intelligent, responsible, attractive women were married to men who were lower-status but also intelligent, responsible and caring themselves. The problem is not that an attractive woman is married to an unnatractive man - the problem is that these men seemingly have nothing to offer. From the article it seems that these men are not particularly good bread winners, they lack maturity to match that of their wives, they make messes that their wives are expected to clean up and they don't have some exceptional personality traits to make up for these defecits. No one is perfect, but when exceptional women are paired with entirely unexceptional to the point of being objectionable men it's another story. In the sitcoms mentioned in the article the men have nothing going for them - not even an intangible that a woman might find attractive enough in a mate even without the traditional tangible qualities. <br /><br />Traditionally people married for status, money and attractiveness (though women were significantly less likely to depend on this third qualifier). Over time the status issue has broken down to some extent, though people do tend to marry within their own social group as well as class/status. Money has also lost its importance for some people over the years as the middle class has grown and more women are making more money, though it can remain an issue in any relationship. Attractiveness, though generally thought of in regards to the physical, can also refer to emotional attractiveness. You can break attractiveness into both physical and emotional, the former having to do with height, weight, body type, features etc, and the latter referencing responsibility, supportiveness, kindness, caring, humor, etc. <br /><br />In these sitcoms the men do not have to make any trade-offs in their choice of wives, say sacrificing looks for responsibility or money for status. The women are everything a man could want. On the other hand the women seem to get absolutely nothing from their partners. The men provide no status or money (which are what a woman is expected to look for traditionally), they are physically unnatractive and they are utterly lacking in emotional attractiveness. They're bores, not wonderful men whose sweet natures win over their wives dispite their traditional disadvantages. And that's the problem right there, that inequity. One partner gets everything with no effort (they are not required to work on their earning power or physical selves or even to grow up and act like an adult) while the other partner does everything and gets nothing. And that is neither a revolutionary or a healthy portrayal of married life. And worse than that, it's not even funny.Rivkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830890434742029840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105468737988651972005-01-11T12:38:00.000-06:002005-01-11T12:38:00.000-06:00Ilkka, "women" are not an undistinguished entity. ...Ilkka, "women" are not an undistinguished entity. Some women are offended that they are taken as older, which definitely speaks about how our culture devalues older women but is not evidence that men have some genetic predisposition to look for looks more than women.<br /><br />And just because two stereotypes seemingly contradict each other doesn't mean that one of them has to be true. Neither could be true. <br /><br />The point is that individuals make choices for individual reasons. Your theory is that we're not really individuals. All women are competing for the richest men and all men for the prettiest women, right?Amanda Marcottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05098500818240791320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105466949434522622005-01-11T12:09:00.000-06:002005-01-11T12:09:00.000-06:00Amanda: "Ilkka, still not getting it. You are stil...Amanda: "Ilkka, still not getting it. You are still under the impression that everyone agrees that the only thing that women have to offer is their looks."<br /><br />I have never claimed that looks are the "only thing" that women have to offer. In a thread that is about the looks of sitcom wives, I wrote about the looks of sitcom wives.<br /><br />Looks are still pretty important, though, for both men and women, except that are more important for women. Women prove this whenever they take offense in somebody honestly mistaking them to be older than they really are. And of course this fear of looking old is not totally unfounded. Any twenty- or thirtysomething woman can look at another woman who is 10-20 years older than her and immediately realize the very concrete consequences that looking like her would have her life.<br /><br />But there I go, digressing again just to be snarky.<br /><br />zuzu: "More likely the women with the low-status men are lower-status themselves."<br /><br />Very true. What could we infer from that?<br /><br /><br />Ilkka KokkarinenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105459616951240732005-01-11T10:06:00.000-06:002005-01-11T10:06:00.000-06:00Ilkka, still not getting it. You are still under ...Ilkka, still not getting it. You are still under the impression that everyone agrees that the only thing that women have to offer is their looks.Amanda Marcottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05098500818240791320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105453743835616402005-01-11T08:29:00.000-06:002005-01-11T08:29:00.000-06:00I think I saw this in Uncle Melons's page "The Hot...I think I saw this in Uncle Melons's page "<A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclemelon.com%2Fhot_tv_milfs.html">The Hot MILFs of Network TV</A>". However, I find this complaint somewhat strange in light of the previous discussions, since when you think about it, don't these hot sitcom wives actually <I>break</I> the stereotypes?<br /><br />According to the nasty stereotype "all women pick their partners based on economic status hierarchies" held by many unenlightened men (such as myself, I shamefully admit), beautiful women are not very enthusiastic to date, let alone marry, fat working-class schlubs. They "could do better", to quote a phrase.<br /><br />So it is actually quite healthy and liberating to see hot women on TV who don't use their beauty advantage to trade up for a higher-status man, but instead settle for lower-status men who aren't "CEO's" or "millionaires".<br /><br />Besides, not all women think alike. In the real world there is a vast diversity in women's preferences. Many women actually prefer their boyfriend to be fat and hold a working-class job, lifestyle and values, and would not change this even if they could. Not all women are shallow whores who just look for money and success in their husband.<br /><br />In the real world, we constantly see beautiful thin women pairing up with older low-status men. You just try telling me that it isn't so! So what precisely is wrong with the TV shows depicting our common and shared reality?<br /><br /><br />Ilkka KokkarinenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105421715120600842005-01-10T23:35:00.000-06:002005-01-10T23:35:00.000-06:00Some thoughts on I Love Lucy, which I think is one...Some thoughts on <I>I Love Lucy</I>, which I think is one of the greatest sitcoms ever made:<br /><br />Lucy was bumbling, yes, but she was never portrayed as stupid. And Ricky was responsible, but he was often the butt of the joke. It is this equality that allows the show to stand up well today (not to mention that the comic talent of the actors was incredible). <br /><br />Lucy didn't have to run around cleaning up Ricky's messes. And Lucy had her own life, and didn't measure her every act by how it might affect her husband.<br /><br />The only sitcoms I watch now (unless we are blessed with an occasional episode of <I>Ab Fab</I>) are <I>Arrested Development</I> and <I>Curb Your Enthusiasm</I>, and all of those characters are neurotic way beyond gender roles!<br /><br />It doesn't surprise me to hear that the network sitcoms have returned to the beautiful wife/ugly slob marital formula. Sign of the times.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07124489754017593105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105403228439418382005-01-10T18:27:00.000-06:002005-01-10T18:27:00.000-06:00I think it's sometimes a strange combination of se...I think it's sometimes a strange combination of sexism and political correctness. They know they can still get away with excluding woman who aren't gorgeous, so they do. But if they made the wife the dumb/irresponsible one in the couple, they would probably open themselves up to charges of obvious sexist stereotyping. So they make the wife the smart one.<br /><br />Back in the 50s, they could still get away with stereotyping women as dumbbells, hence "Lucy".<br /><br /><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Flamom.blogs.com">Joan</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6669068.post-1105397503708245272005-01-10T16:51:00.000-06:002005-01-10T16:51:00.000-06:00Lucy was a very good hoofer, in her pre-TV, Hollyw...Lucy was a very good hoofer, in her pre-TV, Hollywood musical days. The movies were forgettable, but a few bits and pieces are viewable in such venues as the "that's dancing" and "that's entertainment" composite movies.<br /><br />NancyPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com