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Monday, January 31, 2005

Abstinence-only education doesn't work

Well, it doesn't work for the stated goal of actually getting teenagers to abstain from sex.

DALLAS — Abstinence-only programs like those promoted by the Bush administration don't seem to be working on teenagers in the president's home state, according to a state-sponsored study by Texas A&M University researchers.

The ongoing study, the first evaluation of the abstinence programs across the state, found that students in almost all high school grades were more sexually active after undergoing abstinence education.

By the way, isn't it a misnomer to call it "education"? I mean, haranguing a group of kids for a semester about keeping their pants on isn't really teaching them anything. It's not like teenagers aren't aware that Sex Is Bad. How do they fill up class time? Teaching girls how to hold a pencil between their knees? After being bored out of my mind like that for a semester, I'd go have sex just to spite the school for wasting my time if I were a student.

Anyway, the story just mentions that the kids go to class, blow off the "lesson" and go out and fuck anyway. They don't mention if after wasting the kids' time and our tax dollars whether or not the kids then decide to take what they did learn (that condoms don't work and make your dick fall off, I mean, the "failure rate" of contraception) and use that new information to decide to blow off using birth control. My guess is yes.

Call me cynical if you must, but it's hard for me to believe that people have good intentions when they gather a bunch of kids into a classroom and tell them what they already know--adults don't want you to fuck--and then tell them that condoms don't work. In fact, that sounds almost as if the actual intention is not to keep kids from having sex so much as make sure that those who do pay for it with their health or their future. Maybe some starry-eyed optimists really do think that kids have sex because no one has ever told them not to and that's all it's gonna take, but my guess is that they are a minority of the abstinence only proponents. Everyone else?

Yeah, it's hard for me not to see abstinence-only education as a vengenance program unleashed on the young to punish them for growing up in a time where they have their health and their youth and they can have sex without risking their futures.

And if that's the goal, according to this map, abstinence-only is working like a charm. (Thanks for the map, Jill.)

636 Comments:

Blogger lawrence krubner said...

I went to high school in the mid 80s in New Jersey. My state had a good, very liberal, policy on sex ed at that time. In school, we were taught about each kind of contraceptive. Failure rates were included, but more in the sense of "This works 98% of the time and this works 95% of the time, so if you use them both together you're pretty safe." It was emphasized to us that withdrawl didn't work. We all knew this. We accepted it as fact. Talk to anyone now in their 30s who grew up in a liberal state. They all know this. Withdrawl doesn't work as a contraceptive technique. So I was suprised, starting about 5 years ago, to start running into people who think that it does. These tend to be people in their 20s who got their education's in the South. Intelligent people, college educated people. Here in Virginia, it is a definite trend, most of the people I run into who are in their 20s seem to think withdrawl works. Some use it as their only form of contraception.

I'm not sure what to make of it. Another example of bad sex ed?

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Blogger Amanda said...

Bingo. I'm in my late 20s and already "abstinence only" was the de facto standard if not the official one as it is now. Sex ed was telling us that women menstruate, showing a few slides of people with really gross veneral diseases, and then leaving it at that. So kids had to teach each other how to avoid pregnancy and withdrawal was commonly espoused method. Condoms were rarely discussed and I was under the impression that most people didn't use them. Which I'm sure has only gotten worse now that the official stance of the schools is that condoms don't work, a blatant lie.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger MNObserver said...

With the exception of Alaska and Hawaii, looks like climate has as much to do with teenage pregnancy as anything else. Looks like we ought examine the statistical link between number of months youngsters can screw outside without the threat of frostbite and the teenage pregnancy rate.

MO

1/31/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

A bunch of factors grew up toward the late 80s that pushed acceptance of condoms. That's when most of us (then young) people gained our awareness of AIDS. I forget what year it came onto our radar screens, but it was around 1987-1990. There were also a lot of sex ed programs in the schools, all of which were more liberal than what is being taught now, even in the liberal states. This lead to a period (maybe 1990-1998 or so?) of absolutely universal condom use, at least among the college educated kids I knew at the time. I've a feeling this era has ended. I've no evidence for this, only an impression. When I talk to college kids today, all their stories seem to suggest less condom use then what was normal 10 years ago. Wild, drunken parties without condoms seem to have replaced wild, drunken parties with condoms.

As I say, this is just an impression. I suppose there must be statistics on this? Where could we track this down? I'm especially interested in condom use among college kids, since they are such an important indicator of sexual trends.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

Sorry I'm on such a tangent today. One more comment on this subject.

Some of the changes in the public mood are really surprising, and they surprise me more when they show up in close friends of mine. One of my best friends at this point is a 24 year old woman who has called herself a feminist since high school, she owns two copies of "Our Selves, Our Bodies, and she has an autographed copy of Inga Muscio's book "Cunt". But her sex life till her early 20s was so reckless that when she finally pulled herself together and went to get an STD check, she could not believe she came back negative on everything. She took 3 more STD tests over the next 16 months, waiting for something to show up. Nothing ever did. She could hardly believe that she'd gotten away scot-free.

She reminds me a lot of a woman I knew 12 years ago, but back then condom use was just absolutely required. We'd all read Susie Bright and adopted that kind of San Francisco early 90s attitude of "Let's have sex but let's be safe."

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Amanda said...

A friend of mine who is about 10 years older than I am and I were speaking about that and he said yeah, in the 80s there was this real fear of getting AIDS. I don't know if it's geography or the time period, but in the 90s in Texas, it was widely felt that straight people who didn't use drugs just didn't get HIV. Even though there's some truth to that, it obscured the larger problem for average straight people, which is that other STDs are all over the place. Common STDs like chlymdia and pregnancy were massive problems in my community growing up.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger delagar said...

Here in Arkansas (which you might want to notice has an extremely high teen pregnancy rate) I used to get a lot of pro-abstinence-only sex ed papers from my students who had attended the many Christian schools in the area. I used to try to reason with these kids.

Their logic was (a) sex outside of marriage was evil, so (b) people shouldn't have sex outside of marriage, so (c) people shouldn't be taught about contraception since that will make them think it's okay to have sex outside of marriage.

"What about the fact that people have sex outside of marriage anyway?" I would ask. "Isn't it better that these people be informed about contraception? Isn't knowledge better than ignorance?"

They would just gaze at me blankly. Then (often) they would say, "If you're not going to have sex, you don't need a condom," which is, apparently, something the local schools teach them to say.

And if you don't have condoms, you end up with an appalling teen pregnancy rate, I reckon, not to mention a university graduation rate that is among the lowest in the nation.

But hey. At least we ain't teaching our kids anything evil!

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Anne said...

but it's hard for me to believe that people have good intentions when they gather a bunch of kids into a classroom and tell them what they already know--adults don't want you to fuck--and then tell them that condoms don't work. In fact, that sounds almost as if the actual intention is not to keep kids from having sex so much as make sure that those who do pay for it with their health or their futureDING DING DING DING DING!

1/31/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I grew up in Lubbock, Texas, graduated in the mid 90s. My parents were realists, they didn't trust the school system to provide me with factual sex education. After we had the initial “talk” my mother took me to the gynecologist. She told me to ask the physician any questions I had. I remember writing a list. I credit the experience with preventing me from becoming pregnant or catching an STD from the less than stellar high school boyfriend. I plan on doing the same for my kids (should I decide to have any). Oh, and I should mention, I would have had sex with or without the education, because at the time I believed I LOVED him. Oh to be in your teens.

1/31/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I generally agree, but I think the map might be a bit misleading, because it counts "teen pregnancies" as those involving girls/young women aged 15-19. While I do think 15 is definitely too young to be having a baby, 18 or 19 is a different matter. Plenty of women have kids at that age, and maybe more so in the South, due to cultural differences and more traditional attitudes meaning people tend to get married and start a family at an earlier age.

(I don't mean to be offensive here, or stereotype Southern people!)

When I think of "teen pregnancy" I tend to think of the 12-15 age range, because at this age there's not much doubt that pregnancy is a problem and shouldn't be happening. Getting pregnant between 16 and 19 is not really all that unusual, and apart from the technical "teen" aspect, it's no worse to have your first baby at 19 than at 20 or 21. You can talk about whether it's a good idea for women to be having kids while still young (17, 18 etc), whether it would be better for them to stay longer in education, whether class and economic issues affect the decisions etc. And these are all valid points. But there's still a very very big divide, in my mind, between a 12 year old ending up pregnant, and an 18 year old woman deciding to start a family rather than going to college, for example.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Amanda said...

Anon, I think the vast majority of women 18 and 19 who have babies are in the same position at the 15-year-olds, which is they didn't use birth control and now they are stuck. That they may be more likely to marry the father doesn't make it "planned". And it is setting them up for divorce and single motherhood without an education. Just because there are cultural pressures here to marry and have children young doesn't mean that girls here aren't just as smart and need support to get an education just as much. In fact, they need it more.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Hugo said...

I agree with your overall assessment, Amanda, though I do so with some reluctance. We ought to be clear that there are many different approaches to abstinence education, some more responsible (and presumably more effective) than others. Intelligent abstinence education doesn't use fear. Rather, it seeks to make sure that the sexual decision-making of the young is integrated with their faith. The goal is to help them understand the spiritual, emotional, physical and psychological dimensions of their decisions -- and to suggest, gently, that delaying sex may be a particularly wise choice.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Amanda said...

Ah, Hugo, it's not just fear but lies they throw at the kids here. I think we live in totally different worlds. There's absolutely no need for the schools to remind kids of what their faith is here, as the churches are extremely aggressive.

There were a lot of Catholics in my town and to the last one, my Catholic friends knew that Sex Is Bad, and to the last one, they did it anyway. You can ask god's forgiveness, but you can't pray away the clap, and that's the problem for a lot of kids in Texas.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger FoolishOwl said...

I'm in my 30s. I grew up in the California Central Valley, which is on the outskirts of the San Francisco Bay Area, but much more conservative.

For the life of me, I can't remember any sexual education programs at all in high school. In elementary school, we had a few short sessions on sex ed, which were confusing and uninformative.

I remember one speaker who outright lied to the class. This was around seventh or eighth grade. The speaker claimed that having sex while wearing a condom resulted in pregnancy about 25% of the time. I was well-informed enough (through my own efforts -- I'd read a lot of "medical advice for teens" on Compuserve) to know that the numbers she said couldn't possibly be right, so I asked how often pregnancy would result from intercourse without birth control. She said 90% of the time. Most of the room laughed at her, but I don't think she was making a joke. It was a stupid, but deliberate lie.

My guess is that the school board was trying to circumvent laws about sex ed by hiring speakers who'd exaggerate the dangers of sexuality. In at least this one case, the speaker chose to lie.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Elinor said...

Ha! I was just going to post EXACTLY what Anne posted.

Seriously, though, this is why I don't think the conciliatory approach to abortion politics (à la Hillary Clinton) is going to work. It's not just about the babies; it's about sex. A lot of parents (and other adults) want their kids to be scared to have sex because they believe it's wrong for them to have it at all, and they're afraid that telling the kids it's immoral won't be enough to control them — they need immoral behaviour to have physical consequences. So when Clinton says "hey, let's work on birth control and comprehensive sex ed to stop abortions," a lot of these people will probably think "what, you want to make it easier for teenagers to screw around and not suffer the consequences?"

As for faith, I don't have any, and I certainly wouldn't have wanted the secular public school I attended to deny me information — information I needed to protect my health — on the basis of somebody else's faith. And even in the secular junior high and high schools I attended, in which I took approximately five courses of comprehensive sex ed (between health and biology classes we got a lot of repetition), the teachers made it extraordinarily clear that they believed abstinence was the best decision.

1/31/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. My favorite rhetorical device for comprehensive sex ed: We teach kids about the US government before they are of voting age. (And many of these kids on reaching adulthood don't bother to vote!) Teaching medically accurate information about arousal, pregnancy, contraception, and STDs doesn't mean that the kid is going to go out the next day and have sex - it merely means that they will be informed about an activity they may choose to perform at some unspecified time in the future.

2. An abstinence component for non-religious sex-ed courses ought to have "negotiation strategies" as well as train kids to ask the 5 Ws more commonly used in reporting.

Who? who wants this, just my boyfriend, me, both?

Why? am I trying to hang onto a boyfriend who wants me to prove my love, or am I horny, or am I bored, or am I looking for the status as a "mature" woman/man, or do I crave a baby to love me, or am I in a steady relationship that looks pretty seriously like marriage/civil union could be in offing, and I want to "test drive" against gayness (straightness) or unpleasant kinks?

What? "base", protection needed, etc.

When/Where? Now? Later?

Negotiation obviously works better if parties already have thought a little about the Ws, but negotiation takes practice, and I would suppose a role playing scenario might work in teaching a few negotiating skills.

3. For religiously-based sex ed, if you have not started with the marriage/family education and the education about basic ethics towards other people, well, hitting them with a Thou Shalt Not in the middle of a hormone storm isn't going to be too terribly effective.

4. For every child, encouraging them to develop their own long range goals ought to help. Girls who aim to go to college and become doctors, teachers, engineers, accountants, etc are much more likely to either postpone sex or do so safely when they have the knowledge to do so.

NancyP

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Thel said...

It occurs to me to wonder what effect abstinence-only education has even on post-marital family planning. I mean, even if all these kids obediently stayed abstinent until they were married (and we know that's not happening), would they have a clue about family planning once they got married? Someone close to me, who got married right after high school, has twice now had unplanned pregnancies resulting from a, "Well, I didn't really feel like taking the pill/forgot to take it/couldn't afford it for some time, and surprise! I had a baby!" sort of attitude. I got the feeling she really was surprised, too, especially the first time, and I can't help but wonder how much of that is because she went to a fundamentalist Christian high school and never learned the basics about family planning beyond "Don't screw until you're married."

1/31/2005

 
Blogger FoolishOwl said...

Another thing I remember was that it seemed like they had sex ed for girls more often than for boys, and the sessions lasted longer. It was still inadequate, I'm sure. But there did seem to be an implication that sexual responsibility was something for women to worry about, not men.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Diane said...

In the late 80's, a friend of mine did doctoral research at an elite univeristy where the women were pretty hip. But they displayed an significant inclination to not use birth control so that it wouldn't look like they were planning to have sex. Is that scary or what? Until the double standard is removed (and I doubt it ever will be), neither gender (among the young) is going to take the required responsibility for preventing pregnancy and STD's.

The recent positive study results showing the success of abstinence + education have been spun to sound like they are about abstinence only. In my state, the ACLU sued to stop the abstinence program website from displaying the "if you don't have sex, God will love you" stuff, and won, but the state hasn't taken it down, and the governor is too cowardly to put her foot down.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Emily said...

I had abstinence-only education, but I got off easy; I don't think the teacher was very into it. It came down to "I'm not allowed to say anything about that," to nearly every question we had.

The only thing I remember about the class was a project to plan a date that did not contain a single unchaperoned moment.

I was always a goody-two-shoes, but one of the things that really annoyed me about abstinence-only education is that it cuts across the curriculum. It's not just health class. So in AP French, we talked about Rimbaud and the teacher had to say in hushed tones, "I'm really not supposed to talk about this, but he was gay."

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Eric V said...

Maybe it's just me but the concept of a teacher saying "I'm not allowed to say anything about that" strikes me as far more obscene than any gang bang or bukkake scene I can think of.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger zuzu said...

My university, in the mid-80s, pushed condom use and safe-sex education through Health Services. The tone was kept light, so it was sort of fun (condom balloon launch! Happy sperm candles! Condom compacts!), and even though I didn't lose my virginity until shortly before graduation, I was well-informed from the get-go.

When I went to law school in the mid 90s, at a major Midwestern state university that has a reputation for being progressive, I was horrified to learn from a classmate who was an RA in an undergrad dorm that he wasn't allowed to present programs on safe sex.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger mythago said...

Exactly, Thel. We have no problem telling kids "You have to learn algebra/dangling participles/organic chemistry because SOMEDAY you'll be GLAD we made you learn it"--until the subject is sex. Sex being the one thing that we are sure kids will never, ever need to know about, and therefore shouldn't be taught. It reminds me of that Rodney Dangerfield movie where his daughter won't have sex with her husband because she's sure the "stay a virgin" message meant AFTER marriage too.

1/31/2005

 
Blogger Elinor said...

Perhaps they think it's an entirely private matter.

Except they don't, because if they thought it was an entirely private matter, they wouldn't provide ANY sex education AT ALL, true or false, comprehensive or abstinence-only.

So either they're not thinking about it at all (certainly possible), or they want people to go into marriage ignorant so they'll have more babies than they planned to and learn to accept unplanned pregnancies as God's will, and so on...

2/01/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ask some conservatives. The "the wages of sin is chlamydia or pregnancy" attitude isn't exactly hidden deep in layers of obfuscation. If you talk about abortion with them, many of them will come out and say, directly, "I don't like abortion because it allows people to evade the consequences of their actions." I.e., if people have sex, there SHOULD be bad consequences. Not that since there are sometimes bad consequences, people shouldn't have sex (the somewhat reasonable, open reason for abstinence ed) but the reverse: since people shouldn't have sex, there should be bad consequences.

Note: this has popped up in a fair number of abortion discussions a lot of us have seen, but that doesn't mean there aren't sincere pro-lifers there who think that it would be nice if sex never had unintended consequences, but that abortion is just too high a price to pay to avoid consequences for the woman, since they think the embryo is a person too. I disagree with these people on scientific/philosophical grounds, I think their motives are generally good. (I think life starts at conception. Then again, I have no problem extinguishing life per se: a carrot is alive before the farmer plucked it out of the ground and sold it to the corporation that sold it to the grocery store that sold it to me, so buying a dozen carrots is paying a serial murderer if I thought that killing living things was wrong in all cases. I think that personhood, a more morally weighty thing than life, forms gradually, much after conception.)

Julian Elson

2/01/2005

 
Blogger rabbit said...

Listening to people talk about their recent experiences with sex-ed, one would think its a miracle that I got really good sex-education throughout my schooling, and I just graduated high school a couple years ago. The only thing they weren't allowed to talk about was masturbation (we had to fastforward through that part of the video...which just made it hillariously in fast motion). We got discussions of all forms of birth control and also emotional aspects and consequences of sex and even techniques for saying you didn't want to.
Of course, two of my friends who went through the same damn program have children due to blatant non-use of condoms (I think they might have been in the 'I want a baby to love me' camp), but the school as a whole has a pretty low rate of students getting pregant. I only knew of two people in my 800-person graduating class who were pregnant during high school. So something must have worked...my boyfriend's school was abstinance only, and he said his school looked like a maternity ward senior year.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger Pseudo-Adrienne said...

Lack of a comprehensive, realistic, and intelligent sexuality education will lead to schools looking like maternity wards as rabbit just said. And schools filled with teens with STDs and passing them on to others. What these ultra-conservative school boards don't understand is that no matter how much you say "Jesus doesn't like naughty sexually active teens," kids will ALWAYS 'do it'. Especially if you hold up 'forbiden fruit' to them, they'll do it.

Kids are always going to do it no matter what you tell them, so it's up to the schools and parents to teach their kids how to be safe and protect themselves. Parents and the schools need to stop with these subliminal religious techniques in teaching sex-ed and teach REAL progressive and comprehensive sex-ed. Or they can go on thinking all pregnancies and STDs are "God's will" and be grandparents when their son or daughter are only fifteen or sixteen. And I'm sure getting the clap is "God's will" too. What a bunch of dipshits.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

The religious-based sex-ed classes also influence how people listen to the information coming from the secular world. I once had two close friends who were dating and they went to Catholic school together. They used no birth control, though they didn't want to have kids at that age. One time she was late with her period and so she thought she was pregnant. That turned out to be a false alarm. After that, they tried to use condoms. Apparently during one of their first tries the condom broke. This has probably happened to all of us, and I imagine most of us commenting her on this weblog have been in that situation and reacted with "Oh, well, let's try another." But for this couple, their basic reaction was "Wow. So everything they taught us in Catholic school really was true. These things don't work at all!"

2/01/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

If you read conservative religious magazines like First Things, you'll notice religious conservatives often cite America's high non-immigrant birth rate as a sign of our vitality when compared to decadent Europe. There was an article in First Things just a few months ago called, I think, "The European Decline", which made the point repeatedly. Yet if America had no unplanned pregnancies, I'm not sure our non-immigrant birth rate would be any higher than Europe's.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

I grew up in a liberal state and got what passes as a good sex ed program, though it was kept very dry and factual. One thing that is not allowed open for discussion in any of these classes is the subject of eros.

In one of her books (maybe the 1990 Virtual Sex World Reader) Susie Bright tells an interesting story about when, at the end of the 80s, she and some other gay activists got to go into the public schools and talk about gays and lesbians. And though most students are straight, they looked forward to these classes as the only classes where the sex-ed talks were interesting. In Susie Bright's opinions, these were the only times the kids were allowed to talk about "desire" (Bright's word).

2/01/2005

 
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2/01/2005

 
Blogger anon said...

"a vengenance program unleashed on the young to punish them for growing up in a time where they have their health and their youth and they can have sex without risking their futures"

Or sometimes I think, just for being young at all.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger Sapphire7 said...

I'm 35. I grew up in Chicago Public Schools. I thought sex ed was pretty comprehensive (pre-AIDS). I never had sex with my first love because there was no birth control. I told him I was willing, but he never went out and got condoms. His loss. It was ironic that my after school job was to babysit a 1-month old baby for an hour while the mom ran errands. That kid screamed the entire time I watched her.
In college, a friend told me about Planned Parenthood and I was thrilled to find affordable birth control without dealing with my parents. I told all my friends about going there.
My best friend recently dated a guy 15 years younger. He grew up during the safe sex campaign. He could open and put on a condom with one hand! She didn't even realize he was doing it.
This is way too much to ask in this climate - but I think girls should learn how their fertility works. When I decided to start having babies, I read Taking Charge of Your Fertlity. This is an excellent book which explains how the cycle works. Before that, I had no idea whether I was in trouble if we made a mistake. Did you know that women are only fertile for 4-6 days every month? The main thing to watch is the mucus changes (sorry if TMI). This is what natural family planning is based on. It's a safer option for monogamous couples. I think taking hormonal forms of birth control can have long term health consequences. Though, it's not foolproof. I thought I knew what I was doing and my baby is due in 9 weeks (no joke!). (Maybe it's because spermicide alone on fertile days was a bad choice....)

At least we have the internet. Kids who really want to know have access to the info - not in like the 1950's.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger FoolishOwl said...

Some people really, truly believe that there's a purpose to their existence -- and that purpose is to get married, and make babies, for the greater glory of God and country.

The idea that there's no purpose to life but what purpose you choose, that there's no one really running the show, with a worked-out plan for every moment of your life is incomprehensible and utterly terrifying to such people.

The only way I can make sense of George Bush's inaugural address is that he has literally no idea what "freedom" and "liberty" actually mean. I don't think he knows, and it's because he doesn't want to know. And he's not alone in that.

2/01/2005

 
Blogger lawrence krubner said...

"there's no one really running the show, with a worked-out plan for every moment of your life is incomprehensible and utterly terrifying to such people."

It's terrifying to most of us. Some of us are willing to deal with that fear, some of us aren't. The idea that God has a plan forgives a great deal of hatefulness. A tsunami can kill 200,000 but a survivor can say "I don't know why I escaped. I guess God has a plan for me." The brutality implicit in the statement (God had no plan for the others, they were useless human beings, it's just as well that they died) is overlooked.

2/02/2005

 
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