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Sunday, January 09, 2005

Oh, that's alright then

Via The Well-Timed Period, we find that the bill that Del. Cosgrove is wanting to introduce won't make it illegal to miscarry. No, you'll only be considered a murderous if you deliver a stillborn. Phew.

Of course, as Ema demonstrates, there's no reason to think that Cosgrove has any fucking clue what a stillborn is, and I'm sure that he really doesn't know the difference between a miscarriage and a stillborn. But the main problem is that a law like this is all about assuming that women who give birth to stillborns are considered guilty until proven innocent. His reasoning that he gives in the letter Ema puts up is that it's hard to tell after 12 hours if a stillborn was in fact delivered dead or if the mother killed it after it was born. Which means that we have to assume that there are hoardes of women out there killing their babies and passing them off as stillborns. Why not assume this? After all, we are the daughters of Eve and will wander off into the wilderness of sin and evil if there are not firm male hands guiding us and reminding us that killing babies isn't just a fun game.

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Amanda, remember how Dan Savage instigated coming up with a definition for "santorum", based on the odious Rick Santorum? Well, I hearby nominate this definition for "Cosgrove":

that brownish, icky goo towards the end of a menstrual period; the stuff that is more sloughed-off tissue than blood, although it contains clotted blood at times too.

Unless of course, you can come up with something more gross and equally apropos. Bloggers can then set this up on wikipedia and urban dictionary, and link to it, frequently.

What a fucking asshat.

1/09/2005

 
Blogger Pseudo-Adrienne said...

"...Of course, as Ema demonstrates, there's no reason to think that Cosgrove has any fucking clue what a stillborn is, and I'm sure that he really doesn't know the difference between a miscarriage and a stillborn..."

I seriously doubt some of these old male legislators know *anything* about female biology, let alone female reproduction. It wouldn't surprise me if one of these old patriarchists still believe that there are minature babies inside of sperm-cells.

Man, some Southern Conservative white-male politicians are just so out there,...and very dangerous to women's reproductive rights sometimes.

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Blogger Amanda said...

I love your idea, Lubu. I think that we could work that into WAY more conversations than "santorum", since women have periods once a month, but santorum is a rare enough happening, even for people who have a lot of anal sex.

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"Cool! Let's go swimming!"

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Blogger La Lubu said...

"Don't let nasty old Cosgrove ruin your good underwear! Use xxxxx pantyliners, for your Cosgrove days!"

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Blogger ema said...

Hmm, I find it hard to believe that a legislator does not become familiar with a topic before proposing legislation. There's something else going on here; haven't figured out what yet, but I'm working on it.

1/09/2005

 
Blogger FoolishOwl said...

I'd consider blaming it on simple stupidity, but this is a surprisingly short, clearly written piece of legislation.

My guess is that the real point of this bill is to push further ahead with the idea that a fetus is a legal person, and that, with enough such laws passed, the anti-abortion folks can claim that by "evolving community standards," abortion should now be illegal.

In any case, I think Cosgrove is lying about the intent of the proposed law.

1/09/2005

 
Blogger zuzu said...

I'm going to guess that most stillborns are delivered in hospitals, because you're either going to go into labor or you're going to have to be induced when it's apparent the baby's dead.

Something is definitely up with this, because if a coroner, let alone a good obstetrician, can't tell that the stillborn has never actually drawn a breath, there's a huge problem. This sounds like a manufactured crisis in service of an agenda (kinda like Social Security and crimes against fetuses).

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Wikipedia article should be up in a few minutes--search for "cosgrove"

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The definition is up but people are voting to delete it.

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Someone on a board I used to post to described the icky brown goo as, "I'm making my own gravy!"

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No, no. The santorum campaign didn't start with Wikipedia. You have to use it in webversation first. Heck, send it to Savage Love. Couldn't hurt.
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Blogger Carrie said...

How scary that I thought what happened in 1768 could never happen again.. now we see Del. Cosgrove attempting to take us to that place again where women are subjected to trial, pain and punishment for miscarrying.

I posted in September about a play I saw that detailed the life of a real woman, Ruth Blay, who gave birth to a stillborn in 1768. She was tried for murder, and found guilty. The play wrote the verdict of the judge was based on the assumption that no unmarried woman would want a baby, so she must have killed it - that and 5 men signed a paper saying she killed it. She was executed as a result (the playwright based most of the play around the Declaration Ruth Blay wrote half an hour before she was killed).

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