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As previously mentioned, many of my good friends are huge motorheads. I don't get it, either, but I am an expert at nodding and smiling as this friend drags me to stare at a Corvette he rebuilt or another friend jumps up and down while we watch an incomprehensible Formula 1 race and tells me why she loves Ferrari or another carefully explains why Rossi is the greatest motorcycle racer of all time. I have friends that are addicted to muscle cars, even ones with a flaming chicken painted on the hood, friends who could tell you to the penny what Michael Schumacher made last year, friends who earnestly tell me that I could make money as an umbrella girl. (Yeah right.) Racing maniacs. And to the last one, they loathe NASCAR.
I thought of this when reading posts by Greg and by Hugo trying to figure out the popularity of NASCAR. For those standing outside of the whole thing, it's tempting to be open-minded and generous towards NASCAR fans. They merely like racing and it's just what they know. They aren't racist, they just like to see racers that look like them. I sympathize with that urge.
My racing fanatic friends disagree strongly, to say the least. A couple of them I know can be can be encouraged to expound on it at length given a cocktail, a cigarette and a sympathetic ear. According to fans of other types of racing, superior types that have sophistication and technological advances like Formula 1, the only reason to prefer NASCAR is that one is a xenophobic redneck who would prefer substandard sport in order to never be assaulted with images of people who speak English as a second language giddy with victory and the cash and sex with supermodels that comes with it. This does not come from a bunch of blue state Americans who sneer at our redneck brethern. I am of our redneck brethern and still we look down on idiots who would rather watch Ford race Dodge instead of BMW race Ferrari.
Truth told, the growing popularity of NASCAR is one of the signs of the Apocalypse. There is no excuse for giving a shit about one substandard American manufacturer bettering another substandard American manufacturer in a contest that deliberately excludes foreigners who might make it interesting. When Toyota joined the Truck Series, it gave me a perverse glee to watch them start kicking ass right off the bat. Please don't condescend to my fellow Southerners and figure that we don't know better. They know better. They are just being assholes. Getting a tattoo referencing the late Dale Earnhardt is asshole behavior, and no one should be obliged to expend effort trying to understand it.
NASCAR succeeds for the same reason the American spirit we all remember from our youth and cherish, the belief in the spirit of freedom and the power of individuals working together, is giving way to ass-licking subservience to The Man and lavish yet ignorant patriotism. It gives people a cheap thrill without the challenge or fear they might get by actually engaging international racing. For fans of real, aka international, racing, NASCAR is reminiscent of football--a sport that no one but Americans enjoy, and one that Americans enjoy while trashing on a sport that is actually enjoyable--soccer--for no other reason than a bunch of foreigners like it.
posted by Amanda Marcotte at
23.2.05
178 Comments:
To be fair, soccer is boring and Formula 1 is gay.
Or vice versa, I forget.
2/23/2005
When it comes to boring, I find Soccer, Automobile racing, and Football in a three-way-tie. It's only a matter of time before basketball is the world's default sport-of-choice.
2/23/2005
I feel stupid. It hadn't dawned on me that NASCAR was like that. It should have been obvious. But then, I've never paid any attention to auto racing.
I've kept hearing NASCAR brought up as some sort of expression of the authentic American working class -- from Michael Moore, for instance -- but that's probably just the Joe Six-Pack stereotype again. (Moore's a believer in Joe Six-Pack, which is what I can't stand about Moore.)
2/24/2005
My sister is a huge Formula 1 fan, and you'd have to be a huge fan to follow it since races in our time zone are usually at 7 am. She likes it because it has the fastest cars and the best drivers. Plus, we're foreign, so NASCAR is very foreign to us. But I can see how Formula 1 could be perceived as exclusionary and self-important: there's a whole lot of wealth and flash involved.
To me, it's 2 hours of watching cars going "vroom" over and over around the same track. I don't get it.
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NASCAR superspeedway races actually represent some fascinating exercises in game theory thanks to quirks of aerodynamics and track design that causes drafting to make both cars — the lead car and the car following right behind it — faster than either car alone would be (as opposed to running, bicycle racing, and most other motor sports, where the front car does all the hard work of overcoming wind resistance, and the car or cars behind it gain all of the advantage).
The result is that superspeedway races regularly converge to an optimal pattern of two parallel lines of cars racing around the track much faster than any single car could. This is, of course, terrifically boring to watch (did I mention that I'm not actually all that much of a fan of NASCAR?), but it leads to interesting problems in game and information theory.
For instance, if any one car actually tries to pass the others up, he's toast: As soon as he pulsl out from behind the car he is trailing, he loses all of the advantages of drafting, and will fall back. On the other hand, so will the car in front of him. Of course, there was probably a car behind the poor fool who pulled out, and a car behind it; those cars will still have a mutual drafting advantage, and will simply pull forward to close the hole in the line, restoring the draft to the car that our poor fool had tried to pass.
On the other hand, if three or four cars pull out from the line at the same time to pass as a unit, their mutual drafting will allow them a good chance to succeed.
Since the drivers can't talk to each other during the race, they are constantly talking to their pit crews, who are constantly talking to other pit crews, negotiating and renegotiating ad hoc alliances on the fly over the course of the race (there is, by the way, an implicit shared understanding that all bets are off for the final lap). As I said, there's classic game theory elements at work: If you negotiate a deal with the cars around you to try a passing maneuver, and the other cars don't follow through, you'll find yourself losing as many as twenty or thirty places in the field; on the other hand, if you all follow through, you might be able to pick up three or four places each. Throw in external elements such as reputation (there are, after all, several of these type of races each year, and experienced drivers will have been doing them for many years in a row), and there can be a tremendous amount of stuff going on just under the surface.
As I said before, none of this makes it any more interesting to watch; it's like watching some inscrutable science fictional martial art in which two contestants are facing each other, apparently motionless, for hours on end, until suddenly something happens far too fast for the eye to see, and one contestant crumples to the ground, defeated. You can feel confident that there was something intensely complicated going on that you were incapable of appreciating, but that doesn't change the fact that it's just plain boring to watch.
On the other hand, lots of dedicated NASCAR fans listen on special radios that allow them to hear the negotiations, or watch special multi-channel TV coverage that allows them to follow several cars at once as they work through all that strategy. I am perfectly willing to believe that such an approach might well significantly improve the viewing experience for connoisseurs, even if I don't have any particular desire to put in the effort to become one myself.
Oh, one further neat drafting trick from NASCAR: one or two drivers are evidently masters at a certain kind of move that takes advantage of the weird aerodynamic "bubble" that helps the lead car in a drafting pack. They discovered that, if you quickly run your car right up to the car in front of you and tap its rear bumper, you can "pop" its aerodynamic bubble. If you then swing out around it just so, you can leave it to flounder in your wake as it falls back behind you. Obviously, this is very difficult to accomplish when you are both whipping around the track at top speed without accidentally bunping too hard, causing the car in front to go sideways at the same time as it loses its aerodynamic protection, which is the sort of thing that causes twenty car pileups and causes other drivers not to like you very much.
(For what it's worth, I like both association football and American football just fine. Heck, I even like Rules football. It's all good.)
2/24/2005
I'm a BlueState Liberal, and I like NASCAR, 'cause of the bumping and the humanity of it all. That open wheeled stuff is all zoom, but you can't touch ANYTHING!! I think trading paint is exciting.
As for soccer, we got "football." A huge problem is that metric system scoring, where they play all day and the score is 1-0. Maybe that's binary ...
I like 'merican football with 'merican numbers like 36-31. ever see soccer like that?
2/24/2005
Ray: LOL! The martial arts analogy is SO funny. A lot of what you said resonates with me. My husband is SUCH a huge crazy fan of NASCAR (the only person I know who is super into both NASCAR and anime - is that even allowed???) So I end up knowing WAY too much about it, even when I don't want to (the game theory aspect is the only thing I actually find interesting about it, and I rarely watch a race). Sometimes knowing so much comes in handy though: I find it entertaining when I hear a bunch of guys getting into that macho dynamic where they each take a turn making some knowledgable statement about NASCAR and I just come in and say something that blows them all away. (I know (and have met) various obscure drivers, and I know NASCAR facts about things that occurred before I was born. It's really just ridiculous.) My comments, phrased typically as "oh, and did you know that so-and-so did such-and-such?" just end the conversation. As a woman, I have messed up their "game". I can almost hear the "POP! ssssssss...."
As far as NASCAR's racism: I think NASCAR is racist in the same way that society in general is racist - while few of the drivers/teams/fans overtly wish to exclude blacks, structurally, minorities are left out. And, just like in other areas of life, there's not a big enough sense of urgency to include them. People become involved with racing usually because they are part of racing families, or have other types of contacts. I do think one can value the nature of the sport itself without being a racist. My husband in particular always cheers ANY advances in this area (I think one of the team owners is black, for example). And there are SOME (few & far between) fans who are minorities. We have some NASCAR paintings that we bought from a black artist who's a big fan. Go figure...
2/24/2005
Barbara - you said that although you don't follow NASCAR, you still know a bunch of the history of it. What part of North Carolina are you from? I'm from NC and until last year, I never really was into NASCAR, but I still knew almost everything about it, who all the drivers were and where they were from, the fact that Bill Elliott still holds the record for the top speed ever in NASCAR (something like 212 miles an hour), and much more.
I don't understand why there has to be so much theory into trying to figure out why people like NASCAR. I'm certainly not racist, consider myself to be pretty well educated, and yet, I like it. It's fun to go to a race - you get there early and tailgate for a few hours drinking a bunch of beer and eating a lot, go to the race drinking a bunch of beer and eating a lot, and then tailgate afterwards drinking a bunch of beer and eating a lot. It's kind of a social thing.
And I've actually known a lot of black people who are into NASCAR and watch every race.
And while the drafting thing is very interesting, don't forget about the theory behind tire usage, car design, fuel usage, etc. One of the drivers has a degree in engineering from Purdue (Ryan Newman.) This helps him and his team figure out better ways to win races. It's not all just about taking left turns really fast, there's a lot more in it.
And for the record, I'm a huge Real Madrid fan.
2/24/2005
I think Formula One peaked with the move Grand Prix, some 40 years ago. And infrequent scoring makes soccer a bit tedious -- I'd endorse the suggestions put forward on the late and much-lamented sitcom Sports Night: either widen the goal, or make it narrower while eliminating the goalie.
2/24/2005
Eh, it's not so much racism as xenophobia that fuels its popularity. I mean, that and watching cars go fast, which is appealing to all sorts everywhere.
2/24/2005
quote: One of the drivers has a degree in engineering from Purdue (Ryan Newman.) This helps him and his team figure out better ways to win races. It's not all just about taking left turns really fast, there's a lot more in it.
yea, but put in a right turn or 2 and these bubba's will be lost like joe bob in the new wal-mart.
-Mark
2/24/2005
I would rather be in Hell with my back broke than have to watch a soccer game.
2/24/2005
You don't like NASCAR because you are an elitist. Dislike that comment? So would I. Generalizations are tricky things.
I'm a liberal, I study international law and I love NASCAR.
Most of the NASCAR fans I know enjoy Formula One. Formula One and NASCAR have teamed up to do joint events, like last year's car trade between Juan Pablo Montoya and Jeff Gordon. Drivers routinely change circuits. AJ Foyt has won at Indy, the Nextel Cup, and the Formula One Championship.
Many NASCAR teams also own other racing teams including CART and IndyCar which regularly employ people from around the world and even women drivers. Many NASCAR drivers particpate in other racing events like Le Mans Series and the 24 Hours at Daytona all of which have global representation and attract a NASCAR fan base. One of the main events at Daytona Speedweek before the Daytona 500 is IROC racing which pits NASCAR racers against those of other racing series. You could see Helio Castroneves of Brazil take on any of your favorites from the deep south before catching the main NASCAR events.
NASCAR has added a race in their Busch Series (which is basically the minor league of NASCAR) in Mexico City this year. Discussions about holding a NASCAR event in Europe have been under discussion for the past few years. Toyota has been one of the first foreign manufacturers to enter NASCAR and their truck series racing team has been well-received and even landed a former major driver, Darryl Waltrip, as one of the team owners.
NASCAR has at least two road races a year, including one at Watkins Glen in New York, a race track which was founded by none other than a Cornell Law graduate.
The reason why I don't watch Formula One as often as NASCAR is simple. Ask your friends about last year's season and how early the championship was sewn up by Ferrari and Schumacher. There is almost no competition in Formula One for the past five years. It's worse than the Yankees in baseball. Formula One has no "salary capping" so to speak so disparities among teams are more pronounced. It also doesn't attempt to standardize cars of varying manufacturers leading to great disparaties between team and tire design which result in less competitiveness than NASCAR. One of the earlier commentors mentioned "trading paint" and in Formula One few see on track passing of any kind. Forumla One has also supplemented driver's skill with technical achievement and additions of traction control and ignition keys reduce the amount of issues drivers need to contend with on their circuit (although some of these features have been banned by F1).
As for xenophobia, how many African or African-American drivers does the Formula One Series employ? As few as NASCAR.
There is always healthy competition between racing leagues. But query whether your motorhead friends would like NASCAR a lot better if it attracted sultans from Dubai and Princes from Monaco rather than a truck driver and his four kids from North Carolina.
2/24/2005
I grew up in Georgia, and you know what?
Racing is just watching traffic.
2/24/2005
I grew up in Georgia, and you know what?
Racing is just watching traffic.I live in Atlanta, and you know what? I wish more drivers around here would race, then.
2/25/2005
yea, but put in a right turn or 2 and these bubba's will be lost like joe bob in the new wal-mart.
-MarkI think you're letting your insulting stereotypes clash with one another here: What on earth makes you think that "bubba" would ever get lost in a Wal-Mart? If anything, "bubba" should be able to find his way around that Wal-Mart with his eyes closed.
2/25/2005
Yosef,
I'm not from North Carolina, believe it or not. I'm from Pennsylvania. I just happen to live with someone who is obsessed (and he's not from NC either).
2/25/2005
Me, it would be wise to check yourself before condescending to us Southerners and holding us up as a symbol of populist purity. I get to make fun of Bubba. Bubba is my people.
2/25/2005
Okay, I'm a elitist, liberal, blue-state, foriegner (though, to be fair, I don't drink lattes ... I'm more straight short espresso, or a nice strong americano) so I'm probably highly biased :)
NASCAR makes NO sense to me (um, right turn anyone?), and it does seem honestly like a motorsport for those that don't really have to think. I certainly prefer F1 and followed that for a long time before coming to the US.
But, the ULTIMATE motorsport will always be world championship professional rallying. Now that's skill and beauty.
For the record, I adore soccer, love cricket (though I have developed a taste for baseball) but the sport that will have me glued to the screen is the sport of the gods ... Rugby *grin*
Pads? Don't need no weakling pads ... american football? feh.
Oh, and as to basketball ... like most foriegners I know, I don't get it. It's mindnumbing ... how can you get that excited over a basket when it's going to happen nearly 200 more times in the game?
2/25/2005
Amanda, one of the curses of winning a Koufax award is that you get to attract condescending idiots like me who are new to your blog. So you get a couple of new readers but you may not want them to stay!
As for condescending to Southerners and checking myself, the internet is not a good place to compare bona fides because we know so little about each other personally. I grew up in states significantly below the Mason-Dixon line. Don't worry, I've met Bubba.
I don't hold up any group of people, as paragons of virtue, populist or otherwise, because most of the time you appear like a hopeless romantic or at worst delusional. And mankind being what it is, if you wait long enough most people will fail to measure up to any standard you set for them.
But to get back to the point, Formula One is far more glamarous than NASCAR. It's international, the cars are high end models like McLaren or Ferrari, it attracts princes and billionaires. It doesn't come with confederate flags or as much crass commercial sponsoring.
Does the culture surrounding it make it more attractive as a sport? For some people, perhaps. Does that mean you embrace all of the sub cultures surounding NASCAR if you enjoy the sport? No.
But I think you could turn a lot of comments about xenophobia around into things a little more populist. Perhaps forcing manufacturers in NASCAR to be located within the United States is a pro-union, pro-American auto worker rule, just as an example.
If you were poking fun at Bubba, my fault for not recognizing it. But the tone of your post seemed a little more pointed and certain than that.
2/25/2005
The road courses have right turns. Just sayin'.
I've got no problem with people not liking NASCAR. Just don't stereotype the people that do. Oh, and the Xenophobia thing doesn't work that much anymore with races all over the country. I hear they're even thinking about building a speedway in NYC!
2/25/2005
I wish I could say that people like NASCAR because they are pro-union or whatever. And maybe some do. And if I didn't see the reactions of so many NASCAR fans to bringing in Toyota, who is a huge U.S. employer, by the way, I might be feeling more generous.
Not all NASCAR fans, or even most NASCAR fans are xenophobic. But a HUGE percentage are, and believe me, many of them are more than happy to let you know how they feel it's un-American to watch international racing.
But I don't think it is--I wish more Americans raced in international racing so you could root for them a la the Olympics.
As for the racism thing, I would caution that racism and xenophobia are different things indeed. After all, the foreigners that turn off so many people who might be fans of international racing are usually white.
2/25/2005
I like both rugby, and american, and australian football. I like soccer too, but it's a different sort of cat.
I am always amused by people who call players of american footbal wimps, or weaklings. The physics of a pair of lines, vs. a scrum, or even an AF tackle vs a Rugby tackle are such that without the pads, deaths would occur.
Which does somewhat even up the equation. Even with the pads there are broken bones, crippling injuries and the like, and with a greater frequency than rugby seems to generate.
Just sayin'.
TK
2/25/2005
Wow. That game theory on NASCAR is actually pretty cool. Generally though, I must say I find NASCAR incredibly dull. I'm a bit of a motorsports fanatic, my series of choice are Formula 1, WRC, and in its own different way, D-1 Drift Grand Prix.
I'm a huge Formula 1 fan, despite that it hasn't exactly been much of a competition lately (though Kimi Raikonnen's pass on Michael Schumacher into Eau Rouge last year on the opening lap was amazing!) I still watch it because the car control, pit strategy, and extremeness of it interest me. (After all, F1 cars are the fastest racing cars in the world. Period.)
WRC, also known as World Rally Championship is another series where the strategy, extremeness and car control interest me. Imagine, these people are racing modified all wheel drive cars on snow, ice, gravel, etc. at high speeds and mostly sliding around the corners. Imagine if you will a forest road lined on both sides by trees. Now imagine a sweeping corner on that road. At 120 km/h. Sideways.
D-1 Drift Grand Prix: Like balet but for cars. Closed stadium track where drivers in extremely modified cars attempt to slide around the course in the most graceful manner possible at the highest speed possible while staying on the racing line. In tandem.
Compared to this, NASCAR seems to me like 40 year old tech-cars turning left for two hours with 890703 passes for the lead only the last of which matters. This isn't to say I have a fair or accurate impression of the sport, merely that it doesn't resonate with me.
Lorenzo
2/26/2005
I believe Nascar and any similar redneck sport is gay as people who believe in white supremacy is gay.
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