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Wednesday, February 16, 2005

The mommy backlash is now really underway

Seems like Judith Warner's article in the New York Times was just a warm-up to a longer one in Newsweek. Of course, the trend of pushing back at the mommy myth was kicked off by the book by Susan Douglas and Meredith Michaels. Douglas and Michaels had an astute feminist view of the whole mommy myth thing, which is that it is backdoor way of rebuilding a culture of female servitude--if we can't demand that women live for men anymore, then we will simply say that women live for children.

Anyway, because it was in Newsweek, I had real fears that the feminist critique of the problem would be watered down, but it wasn't as bad as I feared. Warner, for instance, breaks protocol and blames society.

They've been bred to be independent and self-sufficient. To rely on their own initiative and "personal responsibility." To privatize their problems. And so, they don't get fired up about our country's lack of affordable, top-quality child care. (In many parts of the country, decent child care costs more than state college tuition, and the quality of the care that most families can afford is abysmal.) Nor about the fact that middle class life is now so damn expensive that in most families both parents must work gruelingly long hours just to make ends meet. (With fathers averaging 51 hours per week and mothers clocking in at an average of 41, the U.S. workweek is now the longest in the world.) Nor about the fact that in many districts the public schools are so bad that you can't, if you want your child to be reasonably well-educated, sit back and simply let the teachers do their jobs, and must instead supplement the school day with a panoply of expensive and inconvenient "activities" so that your kid will have some exposure to music, art and sports.

Good so far, and even better than she makes practical suggestions for collective action later in the article. But am I asking for too much when I ask that these things stop being considered the problems of just women or just mothers? Men want their kids to be safe and well-educated, don't they? Warner gives a nod to the fact that men are overworked, too, and that this is a problem for families but then drops it.

I don't think she's deliberately trying to excuse men, really, it's just that women are probably the ones that are most frazzled by the demands of child-rearing. And that's because they do most of the work. It's a difficult tightrope to walk, acknowledging that men have time issues too while trying to figure out a workable solution while oh-so-gently trying to hint that maybe women would be a little happier if they didn't have to do everything around the house.

Now that I've complained, I don't have any solutions. I'm not going to have kids, in no small part in order to wiggle out of finding out if I could get their father to pull his fair share or not. Ignorance is bliss when it comes to that particular battle. But I know well enough that this problem isn't going to go away without a some men's Me Time getting sliced into, and the only intellectually honest route is to just admit it.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

But am I asking for too much when I ask that these things stop being considered the problems of just women or just mothers? Men want their kids to be safe and well-educated, don't they?I think you've hit on something with this. Parenting shouldn't be a "women’s issue” To make it one is bad for everyone. This article speaks clearly about how it's bad for women, and speaks some to how it's not so great for kids.

The thing is, it pretty much sucks for fathers too. I would argue that the “benefits” men get from the societal belief that women are "in-charge" of child rearing are similar (albeit on a smaller scale) to the "benefits" women get from the societal belief that men are "in-charge" of other aspects of life—some work and responsibility is avoided in exchange for losing one’s voice and influence. One might argue that men choose to make that trade in their families and women have it forced upon them. My sense is there is anecdotal support on all sides.

This is not to say that women are to blame. it might however be a case where either we get to figure out whose fault it is, or we can work together to fix what’s broken.

It is my hope we, as a culture, choose to fix it. I believe part of how we got here is that some of our assumptions about how the world is, no longer match with the world as it now is. I’d love to see usstart to look for those assumptions, and decide if they still serve us.

Some assumptions to question:

Children need to be kept separate from everyday adult life (they don’t belong in the workplace)

Child-rearing isn’t real work

Men aren’t interested in caring for their children

If my spouse doesn’t help with the kids now it’s because he doesn’t want to be involved

If my spouse doesn’t make the same parenting decision I would make, he/she is making the wrong decision

Letting my spouse play a major role in childrearing, it is the same as admitting that I’m not a good enough parent to do it alone

I’m sure there are more, and would be interested in seeing them.

Alas, A Blog had an interesting discussion about similar issues the other day

And I wrote about it on mine as well

2/16/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there is one thing that makes me CRAZY is that hardly anyone EVER seems to question the assumption that "balancing" work and parenting is solely the mother's concern. Just to cite a few examples that bug me to no end:

1) A high profile woman official in my state recently felt the need to assure the public when she took office that she would be able to balance career and motherhood (an issue no male politician would ever have to address).

2) A woman judge with a very desirable judgeship in my state once confided in me that she feels terribly guilty leaving her children behind each morning when she leaves for work (I doubt that her husband feels the same guilt when he leaves for work in the morning, even though his job is less prestigious and less lucrative than hers.)

3) My firm has a "maternity" leave policy rather than a "parental" leave policy-- a travesty I am working to have changed. More frightening still, many of the ostensibly well-educated, well-informed higher-ups I am dealing with can't seem to understand why I think this is a big deal.

4)Out of 40 attorneys at my firm, 8 are women. All 32 of the male attorneys have children. None of the 8 women attorneys (including myself) have children. The male attorneys all have wives who either do not work or who have made career sacrifices in order to parent the children. It is obvious that none of the women attorneys, on the other hand, have husbands who would be willing to take a career hit for the sake of the children, and it is also obvious that it is impossible to do even 50% of the work involved in parenting if one is engaged in a demanding occupation like litigation (at least at my firm). So much for my childhood dreams of an egalitarian parenting partnership with my husband-- even if I were splitting child care with my husband 50/50, I couldn't compete with the male attorneys who apparently split child care responsibilities with their wives 90/10!

5) My husband and I both assume that he would do 50% of the parenting should we have children. But I can't really imagine broaching the concept that he could perhaps do more than 50% (even though I am more professionally ambitious, work far longer hours, and make more money). And worst of all, this is due to my OWN culturally ingrained prejudices!!! It just strikes me that having him play the traditional woman's role of doing 75% or more of the parenting would just be asking too much. Aaargh.

cmc

2/16/2005

 
Blogger Amanda Marcotte said...

Zuzu, I think it would be best if more businesses were open to having on-site childcare. That doesn't mean children underfoot, but it does mean less having to pull for your colleagues with children because childcare issues meant they couldn't come in today.

2/16/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CMC, I hear you.

I'm a litigator also. My child is just over a year old. My wife is as smart as I am, has a degree from a top-of-the-chart program just like me, and made less than half what I did -- because her profession is pink-collar. Also, I was more in love with my job- but the economics made it not even close.

She went down to three days a week. She still feels guilty being at the office those three days. Now, I have given up a lot of the non-work things I used to do -- hobbies, exercise, reading -- to spend time with my son, and I do a lot. But when I go to work, parenting doesn't distract me for a second, and nobody would ever think to question that. Women get criticized no matter what they do.

I can't imagine trying to drop down to three days a week. Nobody told me I couldn't, but I don't believe it would ever work out. Not that my firm isn't okay with maternity leave or part time work, but that they are only okay with maternity leave or part-time arrangements for mothers. Men are not supposed to interrupt their careers to raise a family.

Not only that, but men in my office blithely assume that my wife has final say in all parentling decisions, and that I must leave those things up to her because my Y chromosome disqualifies me. They just accept a victorian division of spheres.

So here we are -- the gender constructs around parenting are completely ossified. Men are not at all supported if they want to be primary parents. Women are strongly discouraged from letting men do it. Then, we wonder why capable women either avoid the demanding jobs or drop out of them to have families.

If I see real numbers of men stepping off the fast track to be parents, I'll be happy. I'm not complaining for me -- I'm happy where I am. But I recognize that I never really had a choice, and I recognize that for other people, the choice that wasn't open to me ought to be.

Thomas

2/16/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think kid and adult life needs to be blurred more. In fact, I think you should talk to kids like adult and adults like kids. Kids are better at reason than most adults I know. Best way to get your point across.

--Mark

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

3) My firm has a "maternity" leave policy rather than a "parental" leave policy-- a travesty I am working to have changed. More frightening still, many of the ostensibly well-educated, well-informed higher-ups I am dealing with can't seem to understand why I think this is a big deal.This was something about my firm that I recently discovered to my shock when I tried paternaty leave. Actually, I was entitled to a couple of weeks but much less than women, who get, I think, six. The reason this socked me is that I work for legal aid in San Francisco, and we have the most leftist lawyers and progressive benefit package of probably any firm in the country. And probably half our lawyers - including at management level - are women.

(Of course I get paid what public school teachers who didn't borrow 100 Grand to go to law school get paid, but salary is a different issue.)

2/17/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It occurs to me that if 'ignorance is bliss' on an issue like splitting childcare, then you have a problem whether or not you ever breed--there IS an elephant in the room. And that elephant is that on some issues, your boyfriend/husband/partner is going to be a sexist ass, and maybe you are, too. Seems that should be dealt with, not avoided.

2/17/2005

 
Blogger Amanda Marcotte said...

Eh, that was like 99% joke. But really, I think that a little not dealing with things can sometimes be good for a relationship. For instance, addressing the weight gain on your significant other is usually gonna backfire.

2/17/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it really, though?

The problem--not just from you, but from what other posters have said, and in my own experience--is that awareness that however much we love a man, there's a point at which he's simply not going to give up his male privilege, and the price of forcing the issue is the relationship.

2/18/2005

 
Blogger Amanda Marcotte said...

Oh, no doubt. The hard part is explaining to someone that the very invisibility of privilege means that good, well-meaning, perfectly loveable men who can be supportive, kind, the whole bit will still use their privilege to get their way without even meaning to. So you're sort of in between a rock and a hard place in these situations.

Like with housework or childcare, you as a woman find that you either have to do the damn work yourself or undertake the unpleasant task of bringing it to your partner's attention that he's not pulling his fair share. Either way you look at it, it's shit work that men don't have to do. And while it's ideal to say, oh men need to just suck it up and do the right thing without being asked to, nicely or not, well, privilege is invisible, is it not?

My ex-boyfriend wanted very badly to have children with me, and when I told him no, he'd promise to do all the shit work like the literal diaper-changing type of shit work. Yeah, he didn't like it too much when I expressed worries about experimenting with having children just to see if he'd keep his word.

2/18/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been struggling with the housework thing for awhile now. Interestingly enough most of my problem has been that I couldn't be "civil" about it because by the time I brought it up I was to the dish throwing stage-- not a good way to make an impression with an INTP. The problem is, I haven't found a good way to make any progress on the "I don't want to be solely responsible for our dirty dishes, I don't want your (female) roommate to do it and I don't want to nag you about it" discussion” I’ve brought it up with some more traditional friends who pretty much leave it at that's just how men are, but I'm not very happy with that either.

The heat of the issue has de-escalated to a point where it can be a "civilized" discussion, but I don't know how to have it without it being a discussion of blame and defensiveness (on both of our parts)

Has anyone here had success with an "I want you to recognize this disparity and work with me to fix it?"

2/18/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been struggling with the housework thing for awhile now. Interestingly enough most of my problem has been that I couldn't be "civil" about it because by the time I brought it up I was to the dish throwing stage-- not a good way to make an impression with an INTP. The problem is, I haven't found a good way to make any progress on the "I don't want to be solely responsible for our dirty dishes, I don't want your (female) roommate to do it and I don't want to nag you about it" discussion” I’ve brought it up with some more traditional friends who pretty much leave it at that's just how men are, but I'm not very happy with that either.

The heat of the issue has de-escalated to a point where it can be a "civilized" discussion, but I don't know how to have it without it being a discussion of blame and defensiveness (on both of our parts)

Has anyone here had success with an "I want you to recognize this disparity and work with me to fix it?"

2/18/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wasn't patient.

Sorry.

2/18/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

liz, I have, but it first required getting the male partner to acknowledge there was a problem. After that, I put the problem right back on him: "So how are YOU going to fix things?" See, if I come up with lists, or little games like encouraging him if he lifts a finger, then it's still *me* doing the work. He knows better than I do what is and isn't going to be successful. (For example, my spouse keeps to-do lists. I don't, so I wouldn't have suggested them.)

And for other problems, like dealing with kid issues, I've resorted to "I'm sure you'll figure it out, honey." And he does! Whaddayaknow!

Yeah, it sucks to occasionally have to hit them over the head with their privilege, but it beats going along with it.

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