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Fred Vincy at Stone Court takes on this extremely stupid editorial about male and female college experiences. He eviserates it nicely--the way that the the sexist writer assumes that life is a zero-sum game and if women do better than men must be paying the price. And of course, if it is a zero-sum game, then women are obliged to lose. Because they're women and....yeah.

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The impact could hardly be overstated. College-educated people earn twice as much as high school graduates. If boys can't get to the good-jobs starting line, which these days is a bachelor's degree, they won't get a chance to use their natural competitive skills in the marketplace.

And when fewer men earn college degrees there are fewer partners whom educated women find desirable to marry. That's a debilitating social phenomenon African-American women have struggled with for years.

The assumption, as Fred points out, is that men need money and women need husbands and this is screwing up the whole system here. As if that's not insulting enough, this argument only works if you assume that educated men are content to marry someone below their education level, but women need someone with equal or greater education to be happy.

This can hardly be overstated: What a load of horseshit.

I have a college degree. My boyfriend does not. Whew--doing my part to make sure that one more over-educated broad isn't out there taxing the pool of eligible college graduate men!

It's a good thing I'm such a rebel. If I was dating someone with a college degree, it would be awkward making sure that he is still more educated than me. Would we compare GPA's? What if he had a different major than mine? What if he had a slightly lower GPA in a harder major, like engineering?

Or you could say that my boyfriend is more educated than me in the sense that he's five years older and therefore has held a job for 9 years longer than I have. That has to be the equivalent of a four-year degree in his field, right? Gosh, this "more" educated thing is pretty difficult to figure out. Maybe instead of using that as a standard, there should be an SAT-style standardized test, and people can just reassure themselves by making sure that the man's score is higher than the woman's before any kind of commitment is made.

The irony of all this is that back when college-educated women were expected to marry and become housewives after graduation, they were told that they were getting educated so that men didn't have to marry someone less educated than themselves. Education, then, was to the benefit of their husbands. Now female education can't be defined in terms of male benefit, so its very existence is troublesome.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

So in high school, "girls shine, boys fade"? And the life-long consequence is supposed to be negative? I don't think so. My hs boyfriend made Cs and went on to get a graduate degree in nuclear physics. I made mostly As and was in the National Honor Society and got a bachelor's degree in psychology and have never made half of what that hs boyfriend made. I really don't see that what boys and girls do in high school is all that important or telling in the long run.

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"...it would be awkward making sure that he is still more educated than me. Would we compare GPA's?"

Of course not, silly. The proper measure isn't really education; it's money. You can fill your pretty little head up with all the education it can hold, AS LONG AS YOUR MAN IS PULLING DOWN A BIGGER PAYCHECK. We all know how emasculating it is for a man to have to deal with a woman who isn't wholly dependent on him for the necessities of life, after all.

In all seriousness, this is the answer to the seeming contradiction you mention at the end of your post. Back in the MRS degree days, a woman's education wasn't much of a threat because there were any number of obstacles to her actually employing it to get a job -- everything from general social disapproval to official policies that forbid married women from being hired or admitted into professional schools. She might have a degree, but she wasn't going to be making more money than her husband. If she had kids, she probably wouldn't even be making enough to support them and herself if she had to leave a difficult or abusive marriage.

Now that the "women don't belong in the workplace" crowd have been (mostly) discredited, a new rationale is needed for keeping women under the financial control of men. This nonsense about asymmetrical levels of education does nicely, since that tends to be a pretty significant predictor of earning power.

Woman has more education than man=woman makes more money=no good. Man has more education than woman=man makes more money=The Way Things Ought to Be. Simple as that.

Or maybe I'm just paranoid?

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The irony of all this is my boyfriend pulls twice my salary.

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Blogger Eric V said...

The real problem of boys doing less well in school occurs not in college but in high school and I would not dismiss it as lightly as Fred does. First of all the problem is not that boys aren't doing as well as girls but that they are not doing well period.An increasing proportion of them believe that school has absolutely nothing to offer to them and they drop out mentally long before the drop out physically. What this leads to is a large population of young men who have no job prospects , no marriage prospects , no future.. until some charismatic leader rallies them to his as mujehedin to his fanatical cause. What we also see here is a systematic devaluation of all things intellectual in the male universe which leads which also make for a more volitile population.

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Blogger mythago said...

Good points, JS. And Eric, too. The problem is (again) treating education as a zero-sum game, where girls who do well are at fault for boys doing poorly.

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Blogger Eric V said...

OT: is there something I should watch out for when editing my comments? I just checked back into this thread and found the second part of by last comment to be completely incoherent. Some text that I thought I erased was still there. My apologies to all.

I also wanted to say that here in French Canada we have a very long (think 300 + years) tradition of men marrying women better educated than they were , it was a common occurence. For example , my mother and most of her sisters had post high school educations while most of her brothers took factory jobs right after high school. At first the brothers got better wages than the sisters since a (male) factory worker was better paid than a (female) schoolteacher or nurse . But in the long run the factory jobs dissapeared and 1 by 1 the brothers either fell on welfare or had to eke out a living going from one odd job to another. But the sisters kept their jobs and accumulated seniority and pay until most of them are now retired in better economic posture than their brothers even though some of them are widowed , some still married like my mom.

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Blogger Sally said...

"I also wanted to say that here in French Canada we have a very long (think 300 + years) tradition of men marrying women better educated than they were , it was a common occurence."

That's interesting. The same thing was true of Irish-Americans in the early 20th century: women, on average, had more education than men. There's an influential book, Erin's Daughters in America by Hasia Diner, that suggests that Irish-American women were less likely to marry because they couldn't find ethnically-correct partners who matched their educational levels, but I think most scholars are pretty sceptical of that claim.

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