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I like DED Space's take on the new version of The Stepford Wives, which I haven't yet seen. And I probably won't, as my Netflix queue is long and hairy enough. I have heard about the twist at the end where Glenn Close is a Phyllis Schflay-like creature who wants to exchange subservience for love. DED points out that this is an uncomfortably common problem.

I say, well yes and no. It's always upsetting to see how many female commentators can be dredged up and handed lucrative careers writing and touring the country telling other women to get the hell back in the kitchen. It's even sadder to see how many women buy the whole line of horseshit without even getting cut a check by their evil overlords who are using them like puppets. But I don't think that these women buy into anti-feminism so much because they see subservience as the payoff for approval. Nah, they see it as winning a catfight is the way to gain male approval.

Susan Faludi nailed it on the head in Backlash in the chapters where she interviewed anti-feminist women. Most of them all but laid back purring while they were stroked for winning against those meanie feminists. And most of them assumed a sort of "honorary man" status for being the bestest of all the girls. Being second class isn't so bad, you see, as long as you are the best person in the second class. You can see excellent examples of both attitudes among the anti-feminist women over at Hugo's blog.

Of course, anti-feminist men love to have it decked out between women because they can stand back, clucking at the silly girls and their silly fights over silly issues like feminism. Their only duty is to step in and praise the good girls who hate feminism, another darling behavior that you can see in full force in Hugo's comments.

I think that is probably why a lot of people don't buy the entire premise of the remake of The Stepford Wives, though that's just a guess since I haven't yet seen it. If all the men are robots, who then are are anti-feminist women trying to impress?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The men weren't robots. And the women weren't either--the women had extreme makeovers and nanochips implanted into their brains to make them subservient. The men would be next.

But (and this is OT) the movie made it seem like the women were robots up until the end--women as ATM's (literally), sparking, malfunctioning wives, etc. This ending was very tacked on.

And hey, how can you say that the anti-feminist men enjoy watching the women fight? That *never* happens. Ask one of the anti-feminists at Hugo's blog. It's only women who manipulate men into fighting. It's all our fault. (And apparently, men are really, really stupid in that poster's world.)

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My god that sound confusing. I am really not going to watch it now--metaphors work best when you can understand them.

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Blogger Lanoire said...

Sheezlebub: yeah, one of the basic tenets of anti-feminism is that men are phenomenally stupid, vicious, and downright bestial. (And they call us man-haters...)

Antifeminists: "Men are dumb as posts and morally inferior, so naturally they should have more rights than women."

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The latest is classic; "gays are to blame for anti-gay sentiments because they take a label and they also cause some gay people to stop being gay because they don't want to be called gay"

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Oh, I'm following along, but I just. can't. respond. It does no good.

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I know what you mean, zuzu. I gave her this long, careful explanation of why you can't just pick and choose statistics from different studies to throw together, and what does she do? Goes to exactly the page I referenced for my explanation, and pulls two statistics which are clearly marked as being from different studies, and throws them together to prove her point. (Rolls eyes.) I think I'm at my limit.

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Blogger Pseudo-Adrienne said...

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I've never met a feminist who say such 'man-hating' things like the antifeminist-women who parade around like a bunch of pompous bigots. If we're man-haters, then how come some of us are in wonderful relationships with men, and sometimes have more male friends than female friends (though that's NOT true for all feminists, just some, like me)? Antifeminist women are the real man-haters, and they're misogynists of course. They hold contempt and disdain for both sexes.

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